Thursday, November 02, 2006

Bus driver refuses veiled woman

Manchester Evening News:
A MUSLIM woman was prevented from getting on a bus in Greater Manchester because she would not remove her veil.

The 22-year-old Manchester University student from Oldham says other passengers laughed when the driver refused to let her on because he could not check her identity with her bus pass.

Now the driver's bosses at First Manchester are to meet with their trade association, the Confederation of Passenger Transport (CPT), to seek advice on how to deal with the problem if other passengers with photo passes refuse to lift their veils.

They say they have received no complaint from the woman and have been unable to track down the driver concerned.
Of course not - she went straight to the press, encouraged by the usual suspects, no doubt.
The student, who didn't want to be named, tried to board the 59 bus to Oldham.

She said: "The driver asked to see my pass, but it has my photo on and he couldn't see my face.

"I told him I would not remove my veil and he said I couldn't get on."

She is now offering to help the company draw up guidance to drivers.
Working title "How to be a good dhimmi".
One bus driver at Oldham bus station, who didn't want to be named, said: "What are we supposed to do? What is the point of a pass if you can't see someone's face?"
Too right. The MEN has a poll currently running at 93% in favour of the bus driver. Get along and cast your vote.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's a when she takes her exams will she satify the examiners that she is indeed the person who has sat in lectures for three years....but then if they have never seen her face that wouldn't prove a thing.
"Sitting in" for exams has been rife for years in my town...the niqab will pose more problems.

8:54 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

I voted. And I read some of the comments. Although most of them were barely literate, they did overwhelmingly support the bus driver.

Now this radical cow is saying she is willing to help the bus company learn how to deal with women in veils. Why would they want to?

Ninety-three per cent of their customers agree that the driver behaved correctly.

8:56 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could you please give the link to that poll? Cheers mate.

8:45 am  
Anonymous Verity said...

anonymous 8:45 - It's at the top of the item, just under the headline: Bus driver refuses ...

Manchester Evening News.

1:33 pm  
Blogger AntiCitizenOne said...

The proper way to deal with this sort of problem is free one way flights to pak-land.

2:31 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Anticitizenone ... or any other hellhole of their choice. Ethiopia might be a good dumping ground for them. And Somalia is even further away.

Wearing the veil in public must be outlawed, although craven blair would never essay such legislation, and niddering nabob Dave would be all aquiver at the thought. Hug a hoodie. Love a lout. But it is essential that this habit, which in the West does not speak of male dominance but female attention-seeking aggression and radical islam, is against the civil interest. It is insane to allow people to walk around a civilised country completely unidentifiable.

Equally, the left must be halted from making special concessions to them. There is no other religion, cult or sect in the world where people walk around completely unidentifiable. Taking them seriously is a big mistake.

Nowhere in the koran does it say women should wear tablecloths or bin liners - and even if it did, so what? Their handbook is nothing to do with us. This attention-seeking student who wasn't allowed on the bus said it was her "religious duty" to wear a pillowcase over her face. Someone should have asked her for the koranic reference, because there isn't one.

Anyone who has been to Pakistan (you have my sympathies) will tell you that most women are not veiled. Turkey has long outlawed the veil and even headscarves are frowned on. In Tunisia, they have also outlawed the veil and re even headscarves, a woman may not enter a public/government building while wearing one.

This Manchester girl and her sisters under the burqa are talking ignorant garbage. Or are being manipulative. Either way, dump the veil in public.

3:02 pm  
Anonymous archduke said...

"Ethiopia might be a good dumping ground for them."
Ethiopia is actually Christian by the way.

The simple answer to all of this is to start enforcing an ancient law that is still on the statute books - in England it is illegal to cover your face in public.

Think it dates back to the Middle Ages, but the law is there - it just needs enforcement.
(and it would deal with the scumbag "hoody" problems as well...)

3:37 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Archduke - Actually, Ethiopia is Christian ... OK, Somalia it is, then!

Tony Blair's government - and let us not forget, he effectively controls the police forces now - will never enforce any law is said law offends muslims. Of course, it wouldn't offend them because they know this crapola about a "religious requirement" to wear a veil is bullshit, but they would ACT offended, and that's enough to terrify faint-hearted Emily.

3:43 pm  
Blogger rexie said...

Ethiopia Christian?

The CIA world factbook gives this breakdown:
Muslim 45%-50%, Ethiopian Orthodox 35%-40%, animist 12%, other 3%-8%

Though I note that the 1994 census gives:
Christians 61.6%, Muslims 32.8%, and adherents of traditional faiths 5.6% -

Looks like the usual demographic trend...

4:33 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

I went back to the MEN and added a comment.

5:30 pm  
Anonymous AWD said...

muslim women are generaly ugly (except that miss world one who was ok) so i say let them keep the veil on but make them pay the bus fare or wait for the next camel to come along

8:05 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

She isn't Miss World. I think she is Miss England and although she isn't ugly, she certainly isn't prettier than average and she's a very long way from beautiful. Around any big city, there are many far more beautiful women - indigenous, black, Indian - than this girl. Which leads me to assume that her father bought it for her. That's how they do things in Pakistan.

No, they can't keep the veil on because it is against the law to hide one's face in Britain. There is no special law for primitive religions/cults. The veil isn't a religious requirement; it is a statement of religious aggression. As I keep saying, nowhere in the koran does it say that women should wear bin liners. They're just instructed to dress "modestly" as are, indeed, the men.

8:28 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only use for the veil is to prevent the spread of TB that is on the rise in this country.....and preferably a veil with an inbuilt spitoon.

9:02 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Peeps, you better get over to the Manchester Evening News and vote! (Link at the top of this post.) The number of people who approve of the action of the bus driver is diminishing. It's 89 now and yesterday it was in the 90s. Go and vote for the bus driver!

9:45 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im with the bus driver for sure......

6:18 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

I think bus drivers should be issued with guns and orders to shoot half-assed nitwits like this girl.

She's a student. Well, here's the news: whatever she's studying, she's never going to get a job. Duh.

What's the betting this self-dramatist is doing "media studies"? She offered to develop a course to teach British bus drivers how to cope with dramatic cows such as herself.

6:57 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

They could shoot these ignorant cows and, as they're already in bin liners, just leave them off by the side of the road.

6:59 pm  

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