Friday, October 06, 2006

Tories condemn/Alibhai-Brown supports Straw

Press Association:
Cabinet Minister Jack Straw has waded further into the row over his call for Muslim women to remove their veils by saying he would like the garments to be discarded altogether.

The former Foreign Secretary sparked controversy when he revealed that he asks female visitors to his constituency surgery to uncover their faces, to improve "community relations".

But asked on the BBC if he would rather the veils be discarded completely, Mr Straw said: "Yes. It needs to be made clear I am not talking about being prescriptive but with all the caveats, yes, I would rather."
Lining up to condemn him:
The Conservative Party described the remarks as dangerous and Respect MP George Galloway has demanded Mr Straw's resignation... The Islamic Human Rights Commission said Mr Straw was "selectively discriminating".
But other groups are less concerned by the comments:
Dr Daud Abdullah, of the Muslim Council of Britain, said he understood Mr Straw's views.
And here's Muslim columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown on Radio Five Live:
Jack Straw is absolutely right and it’s time we talked about it.”

Update. The Pub Philosopher compares Straw's request with the demands of others.

Further Update. The Anti-jihad pundit has more, including this from prolific online commentator Fjordman (not one to mince his words):
The veil, is not ”just a piece of cloth”. It serves as a demarcation line between proper, submissive Muslim women and whores, un-Islamic women who deserve no respect and are asking for rape. The veil should more properly be viewed as the uniform of a Totalitarian movement, and a signal to attack those outside the movement. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen, Denmark, sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape." Apparently, he isn’t the only Muslim in Europe to think this way. Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported in 2001 that 65 percent of rapes in Oslo were performed by "non-Western" immigrants – a category that, in Norway, consists mostly of Muslims. The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo, Unni Wikan, as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."


Blogger AntiCitizenOne said...

I think the "or else" threat has been noted by those opposed to setting up an islamic colony in Windsor.

11:26 am  
Anonymous battle of vienna said...

4th night in a row in Windsor. i only heard about it yesterday - they sure as hell kept a lid on that one.

it'll probably kick off again big time tonight - it being friday as well. (muslims - prayers, crusaders - lots of lager)

12:05 pm  
Anonymous Clematis Fraudster said...

What intrigues me deeply is the insistence in all the news reports that this is a 'White' v Muslim dispute.

While there will undoubtedly be plenty of racist yobs looking to kick a few Asians, the report seem to give less attention to the small matter of the Islamicisation of this particular area. It may have escaped the reporters' attention but Islam is not enjoying a particularly good press at the moment and a fucking great big mosque in the middle of a working-class area may not please the natives.

There is also the residents' concern about the likely increase in traffic too (not to mention fears of regular 5am calls to prayer).

Is this going to be the strategy? Depict people's mistrust of Islam as 'racism' rather than boring old 'Islamophobia'?

1:42 pm  
Anonymous JuliaM said...

"The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo.."

Good God! What unbelievable views that man holds on rape. Is it too much to hope that as a result of airing them, he is no longer a professor at Oslo University?

2:20 pm  
Anonymous Alan G said...

"Good God! What unbelievable views that man holds on rape."

Actually, Unni Wikan is female.

3:17 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Talk about sleeping with the enemy!

4:18 pm  
Blogger permanentexpat said...

What an incredible nightmare world we now live in....and how well we have constructed it! How willingly we have sold out to a sect of utmost mediaeval primitivism. The Neandertaler were a civilized society in comparison to this vicious religious cancer which threatens to overwhelm us.
I never worried too much about a nuclear holocaust because the main protagonists recognized the mutual dangers. In this case, one of the rivals, the Western civilized world, is unable to see its hand in front of its face. The other is bent on our destruction by any means & has no fear of any consequences...because, at present, they do not exist. In a nutshell, the West is commiting cultural suicide,thus making its subjugation to the forces of a horrifying evil that more certain. Our children & our children's children will be slaves...& will, rightly, never forgive us for catapulting them back into the Dark Ages.
Tick, tick, tick..............

4:49 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Agreed, Permex.

Since mo got the word from allah, the L Ron Hubbard of the Middle East, this cult has spread like a stain. We beat it back, but they never stopped eying the West with a view to conquest. You have to hand it to them: they're focussed. And, if you read anything about islam, they will not abandon this mission. It is their holy duty on the word of their allah - which cannot be interpreted or changed - to convert the entire planet to dar es-salaam. And with so many smug and willing collaborators, they will at least manage Europe. The New World won't go for it, though. And it has the potential to be infinitely richer than Europe, thus will have the funds to fight.

5:19 pm  
Anonymous JuliaM said...

"Actually, Unni Wikan is female."


So, why has the usually vociferous 'sisterhood' not risen up in protest? No wonder I've not heard this before - kept bloody quiet because a man didn't say it, I suspect....

6:06 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

No, no, Juliam! It's because it involves the M word. They are conflicted in their loyalties. Yes, we believe in women's rights and smash the glass ceiling and collectives and similar trite goals. But, on the other hand, the muslims can do no wrong, so it doesn't really matter ... oh, wait a minute! The muslims aren't really against women's rights ... oh, wait a minute! It's just that they feel isolated and excluded ... oh, wait a minute! Blah blah blah.

6:41 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

Looks like the football hooligans and our stout British yobs are uniting against the islamics in Windsor. These have always been the ones who went to battle for England.

6:43 pm  
Anonymous verity said...

"Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."

No doubt Norwegian women (and men), like the British, were not afforded an opportunity to vote on whether they wanted to live in a "multicultural society".

10:57 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One cannot take the rights away from a group (in this case women) without giving something in return.
the veil gives women the illusion than they are under the protection of Islam, whereas it is islam that has taken away their rights in the first place and endangered them.
THe jews were made to wear yellow stars under the dhimma and told they were now safe under the protection of muslims, after the muslims had taken their rights away in the place.
The Mafia works in the same way.
and so did Stalin in the gulags.
its the ultimate way of controlling human beings =take away their human rights totally and give them a little something -they get confused and love you for it.

7:42 am  

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