Friday, February 03, 2006

Terrorists & Enablers

Report by Nicola Stanbridge on a demo outside BBC Television Centre last night(streaming RAM).
Nicola Standbridge: There are about 60 protestors here at the gates of television centre, all men, mostly covering their faces with scarves. I’ve been told that some are ex-members of Al Muhajiroun, an Islamic group which some consider to have extremist views. (Chanting) The protestors are holding banners saying “Slay those who insult Islam”, “Europe you will pay, your extermination is on its way”, “Butcher those who mock Islam” and “Islam will conquer England”.
Their spokesman said the image that offended him most was the one of the bomb-turban (scroll down).
Abu Yaya: That is obviously indicating that the prophet is a terrorist.
Can’t think where these perceptions arise, Abu.
Abu Yaya: I’m pretty sure in days to come a fatwa will be issued against perhaps the Corporation, against the newspapers, and in particular perhaps against the individuals who have shown such a picture and anybody who wishes to support them.

(Chanting)


Nicola Standbridge: Would you resort to violence in this?

Abu Yaya: If any Muslim was to decide to do that then, you know, this person is honourable in Islam and this person, we pray that he goes to heaven.
There are no reports of arrests. Well, that would be culturally insensitive wouldn’t it?

On the same clip there then followed a studio discussion which included Stewart Lee, co-writer of Jerry Springer the Musical which caused so much controversy when the BBC broadcast it (rightly on that occasion) in the face of protest. Like the BBC, Mr Lee takes a different view when it comes to Islam.
Stewart Lee: When you satirise something you need to at least give it the credit of understanding it, and I think that what’s happened here is that, um - some of the points being made by the cartoons though fairly banal are legitimate. The one where the prophet is blocking suicide bombers from coming into an afterlife by saying “Stop stop! We’ve run out of virgins” - there’s a kind of political point behind that. But I don’t think that the cartoonists have appreciated the massive taboo that you cross by having an image of Mohammed. There‘s no historical precedent for that. So I think really in the West Christianity relinquished the right to be protected of its icons the day that they put Virgin Mary snow globes on sale in the Vatican, but in Islamic culture it’s a very different thing... The iconography of Christianity is up for grabs the iconography of - to use a corporate image Islam’s always been a lot more conscientious about protecting its brand and so I think you need to engage with it as a satirist on its own terms.”
“engage with it as a satirist on its own terms” - pathetic, wet, hypocritical, self-justifying crap. And wrong about the historical precedent, too.

3 Comments:

Blogger Charles Martel said...

" Christianity relinquished the right to be protected of its icons the day they put Virgin Mary snow globes on sale in the Vatican"

yeah, but the snow globes probably have blessed holy water in them. that's just catholicism - they like stuff like snow globes, or little car-dashboard virgin mary statues - stuff like that. he's also wrong historically - satire against christianity can be traced right back to the French revolution. its not a recent thing.

2:36 pm  
Anonymous TAoL said...

Extraordinary statements from Lee; feeble dhimmitude from Lee.

This is pure bullshit:

'"Islam’s always been a lot more conscientious about protecting its brand and so I think you need to engage with it as a satirist on its own terms.”'

Right: in other words, you - the satirist - ask the subject for permission to satirise him.

Subject agrees and he then sets the terms by which you can satirise him. Brilliant. That rather defeats the object, doesn't it?

If he says no, you may not satirise him, you're a bit fucked, aren't you?

Let me take a wild guess. I would say your average imam or gun-toting Islamist thug would possibly go for the latter, possibly?

8:09 pm  
Blogger DFH said...

I detect a hint of anger taol.

8:25 pm  

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